Caring for Your New White’s “Dumpy” Tree Frog
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Dumpy Frog Factoids

Origin

Australia and New Guinea

Maximum Size

4.5 inches, males smaller

Sexing

Darkened thumbs on males 

Space Needs

20-gallon tank or larger

High Humidity

With ventilation

Climbers

Add branches to clamber on

Life Span

20 to 25 years

Color

Green/brown/bluish depending on mood.

Temperature

Room temp okay, 85o best

Water 

Dish plus sprinkling 

Attitude

Tame, hungry, escapers.

Threat

Dirty cage 

Security

Will crawl into small crevices

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Worms, crickets, smaller frogs

Feeding Time

Prefers dawn and dusk

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Gut load or dust crickets

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Full-spectrum not needed but preferred

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November thru March 

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Spawns in summer

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Next summer after birth

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2 days depending on temp

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One to two months

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Insufficient small insects


LA
Fairly trim here but they do get f
pudgy.

LA
About a two-inch dumpy frog just arrived in Des Moines from California.

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About a year-old dumpy tree frog just starting to get a little dumpy.

LA

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Take a close look at a dumpy frog.  They're fairly friendly.

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They'll give you a scalp massage.


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Face it, these are friendly frogs.

 

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You both become attached to each other.

 

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Everyone loves Australian tree frogs.

Origins:  Doctor White originally found these frogs in Australia in 1790.  White accompanied Captain Cook in his journeys there.  Australia allows no animal exports these days, so most White’s tree frogs are now captive raised.  Most of them come from Indonesia.

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Who wouldn't like such a friendly tho dumpy frog?

Appeal:  These unbelievably friendly frogs are the only “handleable” frogs.  You can hand hold White’s dumpy tree frogs from day one.  If they do get excited, they will jump to the nearest wall.  They stick to slick surfaces.

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Young dumpy frog -- about the average size you find them for sale.

 

Size:  Most White’s tree frogs sell at 2 to 3 inches.  They grow larger fast -- about hand size. 

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Lots and lots of variation in dumpy frog coloration.

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This is about as blue (caerulea) as we've seen them get.

Color Factors:  Dark gravels and low light tend to darken dumpy tree frogs.  They darken by enlarging their brown color cells.  If you like green frogs, warm them up.

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Sometimes White's tree frogs just conk out for awhile.

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Dumpy frog still squinching around to find the best spot to hunker down.

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Much better belly shot (ventral view).

Loafing Areas:  Most White’s dumpy tree frogs will plaster their bellies to the glass sides of their container – as high as possible.  They also like high, larger limbs to loiter on.

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Typical dumpy tree frog holder.  Don't try this with other frogs.

Foods:  Provide live insects and worms.  Dumpys quickly learn to eat from your fingers.  Provide a good variety of prey animals. Growing frogs need a lot of calcium.  Feed every other day, or your frog will get fat.

Supplements: Supplement White’s tree frogs' crickets with powdered calcium and vitamins.   Since food crickets often get wet and rinse themselves free of calcium dust, you’ll get better results by feeding their crickets a nutritious diet.

High Humidity:  Provide at least an inch of water to raise their humidity.  Deeper water is easier to filter.  Keep your dumpy tree frog tank very clean.

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You can hold White's dumpy tree frogs from day one.

Mixers:  White’s tree frogs may mix well with other similar sized species with the same basic requirements. They will eat smaller newts, tadpoles, anoles, tree frogs, and some snails.  Beware of overcrowding.

 

Sexing:  Males develop black breeding pads on their “fingers” for grasping the slippery females. 

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Adult dumpy tree frog plenty old enough to start a family.

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Another adult.

Spawning:  If you’ve kept your White’s tree frogs until summer, you’re ready to spawn them.  Keep them in their own tank with four to six inches of water.  Feed them a variety of foods.  Once they spawn, remove the parents to protect the eggs.

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Just a good-looking, friendly dumpy tree frog.

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Here's some little one-inch baby dumpy tree frogs.

Tadpoles:  Baby White’s tree tadpoles eat infusoria or powder-fine fish food.  Move them up to brine shrimp and/or microworms as they increase in size.  They start turning into frogs in four weeks.  The parents will eat the smaller froglets.  New froglets need pinhead crickets or fruit flies.  Later they will eat house flies which they love.  Most people feed them LOTS of crickets.  LA

Frog "Fan" Mail
 

Stephanie B., May 17, 2008
I am concerned. I found your website while looking for amphibian
breeders. The way you are depicting the white's
tree frogs, is very unsafe for the animals. Frogs are not meant to be
handled like this. The toxins from our skin, face, and hair can be
very deadly to them. You can look anywhere on the internet and any
serious frog hobbyists will tell you the same thing. You are
misleading your customers by leading them to believe that it is ok to
handle the frogs like this. It is extremely unsafe for them. Please
do the little guys a favor and research these things so that all the
new hobbyists do not think that this is a good practice. Frogs of all
types are meant to be looked at, not played with. They should only be
handled on an as needed basis (to clean their cage or transfer to
another enclosure for feeding). Also the small rocks/pebbles and loose
moss can be harmful to them if ingested. Coconut fiber substrate is
safe and free of parasites, this is a good substrate for them. Forgive
my forwardness, but I found this to be a very big concern for the
animals that you are selling. And mixing species in one tank is also a
bad thing. They can be toxic to each other. Thanks for your time.

A:  I appreciate your concern, but I don't have any toxins on my skin, face, or hair.  Well, maybe right after kickboxing, but I can usually work in an occasional shower.  In the three decades I've been keeping the Whites, I've never seen them eat rocks or loose moss.  They usually spend their time in the upper decks.  Very few frogs have toxins that would kill a whites and vive versa.  They can be a danger to other frogs in that they will eat smaller frogs.  LA 

Jen Gahagan, United Kingdom, May 17, 2008
Dear sir/madam,
ok, on your website you are advertising White's tree frogs.  You are advertising them as the only handleable frog. Where exactly do you get your information? WTFs along with all other frogs should be handled as little as possible due to the fact that the natural oils in human hands and skin can damage the frog and make it very ill. WTFs, the same as other frogs, can get stressed with too much handling and stress is a killer to these amphibians.
Please change your advertising. Frogs are not toys and by advertising them in this way you are in part responsible for any fatalities that would occur due to bad husbandry when they are being over handled. Yours sincerely,
Very Concerned

A:  I appreciate your concern for the whites (probably my favorite frog).  I get some of my info from books and some from decades of working with the critters.  I don't consider most websites very good info sources.  Too many forums just like to rant and flame each other.  LA

Stephanie B., May 19, 2008
All people have toxins in their skin...all of us...My main concern is
simply that these animals are meant to be looked at not played with.
And frogs can accidentally ingest things...just look up
impaction...It's a very common case (sic) of death. And I am not just
referring to the White's...I was referring to the White's and all
other frogs.

A:  Maybe women have toxins in/on their skin from all that hand lotion they slather on?  But I really doubt it.  Have you been watching a lot of late night cable commercials?  What toxin(s) are you referring to?  What is/are their effect(s)?  On frogs?  On other people?  On little babies?  Can you eat finger foods without poisoning yourself?
White's are not all other frogs.  They have a tougher, waxy skin that makes them able to sustain handling.  Their placid nature also makes them more amenable to handling.  I'm not recommending you play bocce ball with them or squeeze them till their eyes pooch out.  But letting one sit on your hand (or nose) will not kill it (the white's or your nose).  LA
PS 
They can ingest coconut shell fiber, too.

Jon, May 19, 2008
This is concerning your facts about White's Tree Frogs. The way you advertise these frogs is incorrect, NO frogs are really supposed to be handled unless it's really needed (i.e.: clean out tank) You should remove any pictures of people handling these frogs immediately, especially the ones with the kids and the guys that has a lot of hair product in while the frog climbs all over it.
The reason these frog are not supposed to be handled is due to the chemicals in our skin and hair products. Frogs are very sensitive and will absorb these chemicals.
Many people that take pictures while holding their frogs is while cleaning out there habitats, it is very clear that your pictures show that it is ok to handle them at anytime, that is simply NOT true at all.
Moss and rocks are not recommended as substrate, and you should NEVER mix any frogs!
Please update your site, don't continue to miss-represent these beautiful frogs. Your site will only lead to people to think that these things are ok, and they will stress and eventually kill their frog. Thank you,

A:  Am I detecting some sort of trend from the frog aficionados?  I always feel that people wanting to impart information should use their whole names and locations.  Otherwise it's like taking information from a CB radio handle.  "petfreak1321" is not a name that inspires confidence or believability.  Maybe I need to come up with a standard form letter reply?  Maybe you frog folks need to cite some specific references rather than thinking your feelings are all that's necessary to prove your point?  I'll add ALL your comments to my Dumpy frog page and let people make up their own minds.  By the way, how many dumpy frog do you have?  How many have you kept during your whole life?  LA
PS 
I'm still waiting for a list of specific toxins, their concentrations, and their specific deleterious effects.

Vy Do, May 21, 2008
I have a cocern about the way you handle your frogs so carelessly. frogs should not be carelessly handle like that. "You can hand hold White’s dumpy tree frogs from day one." and ""Keep your dumpy tree frog tank very clean." you just cantradict yourself. frogs can not be "clean" if people handle them regularly. human have toxin in our skin that are harmful to frogs. frogs should be at least moist when people hold them and human should handle them with fresh clean ruber gloves or at least washed and moist hands. the frogs in your pictures are not moist the humans' hands or faces are not moist. and frogs gets very stress when you handle them so if your do handle them it is only when it is nessary  not for fun. I recommend you research firt before getting any animals or handling any animals.

A:  Usually I edit all correspondence that I publish in the Q&As.  I realize that English is a difficult language for some people.  But I decided to publish your letter "as is."  It's funner that way.  First, I'd strongly encourage you to learn what those squiggly red lines under your words mean.  Ask your mom to help.  Second, I'd encourage you to google the phrase "group think."  Third, realize that the toxins come not from humans, but from frogs, toads, and newts.  The exact opposite of that which you fear.  Fourth, I will be happy to research any toxin citations which you send me (if you are familiar with the citation phrase).  LA
PS  Make sure you check into that group think thing.  I also apologize for the two words that exceeded three syllables.  Darn, there's another one.  What the heck, I'd also like you to google the word "apocrypha."
PPS  Keep those cards and letters rolling in.  But if they all contain the same dubious info, my replies will become snarkier.  However, they do make interesting additions to my White's page.

BOB, Virginia, May 22, 2008
Hi Larry, Usually I just go to your site and get my daily dose of the Q&As, and then mosey on over to another site on the Internet. Lots of times I make the trip to google to learn the meaning of a new word that I learned here at your web site. A year or so ago you had the mice lovers that would attack your info on mice. This time it's the frog lovers' turn. They have a right to their opinions but most of their complaints carry no validity whatsoever. Handling a dumpy frog does them no harm people! They seem to like the attention. The only thing that I agree with them on is that it makes sense to keep the hands and the frogs a little moist because some amphibians dry out quickly. Most frogs and salamanders need a moist environment where toads aren't as picky. We are in more danger from the secretions coming from some frogs skin than they are from ours. Poison dart frogs are a great example.

A:  You get the very best poisons from the phyllobates by slow roasting them over a campfire while telling ghost stories.  However, if you're in a hurry, you could probably use a microwave oven.  I always wet my hands before (and after) handling amphibians --  frogs, newts, and toads.  Many of their skins are sensitive to handling but not to toxins from me.  I especially wash my hands afterwards because their toxins can make your eyes, nose, and lips sting -- plus most of them taste nasty.  But the dumpy frogs don't have any toxins that I've ever noticed.  LA

Jon T. Zych, Rochester,MN, May 24, 2008
I was just reading over your Dumpy frog page, when I noticed your fan letters. I would like to say that you've got a great info page for them, and that I have found no errors in the info you have posted. I have kept several dumpys, and am not sure where the other "fan" letter authors are getting their info. Keep up the good work,

A:  Thanks for your input, Jon.  I'll add it to my dumpy page.  LA

Nicholas W., Spokane Valley, WA, August 29, 2009
I have had my two Dumpy frogs for three years now and the first thing I want to say is they can be handled very well and often to reinforce what was said above. I have kids in and out my house all the time, plus some adults who have yet to get the yuk gene, and many kids have handled them, and not once have they ever been sick or had any type of disease, illness, virus, etc... Now don't go weed spraying your yard then refill the mower with gas, and go play with the frogs. duhh... I mentioned kids in this for the fact that we all know they are walking germs. If there were any "Toxins" (sorry when the person at the top used the word "toxins" I had a good laugh. We are not all nuclear engineers. Sorry had to say it.) on our skin, I think we would "wash" them off. Then play with our great pets.
Very nice write up LA on the Dumpys. Everything you need to know, but if I could, may I say the first two years I had my Dumpys in a fake environment, you know coconut husk bottoms, water dish, lots of fake plants, and sticks, but about three months ago I had a false bottom put in with a water fall, real plants, live moss (again never had a problem with the Dumpys eating moss or rocks or dirt. I give them some credit. Some one said something above about this) pond, drift wood, and so on. From that our frogs are much more active and interactive and it did not cost much at all with all said and done, and compared to up keep much better. So if you give these guys a "real" home you will get a much happier and better friend --  like it gives them a boost of life...
Also great write up on the Red Devil -- very useful for new owners. Feel free to edit anything you like so you can put it on the page and not hurt anyone's feelings.

A:  Thanks.  I added your comments to my dumpy frog page.  LA

Kim Wiley, July 28, 2010
Hi.  When my five year old son expressed interest in a dumpy tree frog, I began to research them, and thus came across your website. Some of your Q&A's were really funny. I hope you can shed some light on this.  Sorry, it's a bit of a long story.  Please bear with me.
I've worked in veterinary medicine for many years, and don't jump into getting any living thing without enough of a knowledge base to care for it properly (except maybe my first child, but he's turning out ok).  I read a bunch of stuff.  I learned even more once I got the frog and began to see what worked best for him. However, I have not come across anything describing the problem my (son, 's) frog is occasionally having.
We have had him almost two months now.  He is healthy and has gotten slightly dumpy but not out of control.  I feed him crickets and I take proper care of them too.  Nutritious high calcium diet, clean water and cage etc.  The first time I noticed a problem with the frog, he was sitting and doing what I can only describe as gagging. Upon closer inspection, I could see something was protruding from the corner of his mouth and actually stuck to the side of his body.  I was horrified because I thought it was some type of string of plastic-like material that must have come from his substrate packaging. I peeled it from the side of his body and broke it off at his mouth.  He immediately stopped "gagging".  He was fine afterwards.  I combed through his substrate and found nothing else. About a week later, it happened again.  I inspected the "stringy plastic-like material" and concluded that it was actually partially digested cricket -er- parts? Gross, but causing my frog distress.  I handled it the same way with the same result.  Today, about an hour after putting a few crickets in his terrarium, I heard my frog make a noise, a croak, I guess.  He has never made a sound so I went to investigate.  His mouth was open and he was frantically swiping at his face.  Same problem but really bad.  Both sides of his mouth had the stringy stuff, and a lot of it stuck down both sides of his body. I peeled it/broke it off as I described above and he seems ok now.  Do you have any idea WHAT is going on or why?  Have you ever heard of this before and is there anything I can do to prevent it.
Thanks for your time.  Hope you're recovering well.

A:  Relax  He's not sick or gagging.  He (possibly she) is shedding and eating his skin.  I'll add your info to my dumpy page so no one else has a panic attack.  LA

Jamie Luscombe, Land of Oz, December 27, 2010
Hi, my name is Jim, and I am from Australia. I have seen so many people ranting about how deadly it is to touch frogs, because our body releases oils and toxins in our sweat.
This is true, but people seem to think frogs will instantly drop dead.
Yes, handling them certainly doesn't do them good, but drinking alcohol and smoking is bad for us too, that doesn't stop us though.
Green tree frogs(Aussie ones) are amazingly tough.
I went to visit a cousin's place, and found a pair of the frogs in the shower drain, after I had washed my hair, and all the usual.
Later that night, we took the cover off the shower cover, and the frogs jumped straight out, all over my shirt, before jumping in the chemical intense toilet, sitting under the rim.
My cousin has had the same pair of frogs in his house for the past five years, and he hasn't changed the way he uses chemicals, and my cousin is ALL about chemicals.
Anyway, I'm hoping if you add this to the page, it will teach a few people a few things, and will make them shut up, because they are ruining the page.
Thanks,

A:  I'll add your comments to my dumpy frog  page but it will not make them shut up.  Reason and real life have little to do with emotions.  LA

 

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Michael Troung's Pix
Butterfly/Wasp
Chameleon Fish
Chromides

Chin Alg Eater
Crazy Fish
Crocodile Fish

Datnioides

Dojo
Electric Cat
Electric Eels

Elephant Nose
Exodon paradoxus
Flounder
Gars
 
Glassfish
Goby Bumble
Goby Butterfly
Goby Dragon
Goby Misc.
Half-Beak
Knife African
Knife Clown
Knife Ghost
Loach Botias
Loach Clown
Loach Kuhli
Loach Weather
Moray Eel  
Peacock Gudgeons
Polypterids
Puffers

Ropefish
Scats
Siam Algae Eater
 
Spiny Eels 
Snakehead
Stingray
Stonefish
Wasp Fish
Wolffish
Wrest Half-Beak
Misc Mini-Fishes
Misc Odd
Misc Odd II
Misc Odd III
Misc Odd  IV

Misc Odd V

Sharks  
Bala
Black
Bull
Chinese Hi-Fin Banded
Iridescent
Red-Tail
Siam Algae Eater

Pond Info 
Blank Park Zoo
Bob Humphrey's Ponds
Cattails
Maffett Reservoir
DMACC's Pond
D.M. Botanical Center
D.M. Water Works
Dr. Ervanian's Garden
Duckweed

Dwarf Lily
Ewing Park "Pond"
Jan & Chris's Water Garden
John McDonald's Pond
Hall's Four Acres
Klines' Water Garden
Landscaper Effects
Mini-Pond Pics
Pioneer Corn's Pond
Pond Fish Predators
Pond on 38th Street 
Pond Pics
Pond Plants
More Pond Plants
Pond Plants III
Reiman Ponds
River Scenes
Riverview Island
Selin's Water Gardens
Selin's Japanese Garden
Tom's Used Cars Pond
Urbandale Duck Pond
Water Hyacinth
Water Lettuce
Wild Ponds