How to Care for Your New Red Bay Snooks

Aqualand Info on Petenia splendida

 
Amphibians
Axolotls
Caecilian Worm
Chaco Toad
Mud Puppies

Newts General
Newts Eastern
Newts Golden

Newts Mandarin
Salamanders
Suriname Toad
Tadpoles
Terrarium I
Terrarium II
USA Toads
Water Dogs
Misc. Toads

Frogs
Bull
Clawed
Dumpy
Dwarf
Fire-Belly
Floating
Green Tree
Leopard
Pac Man
Pipa pipa
Pyxie
Red-Eyed Tree
Tomato
Misc Frogs 
Misc Frogs II
Misc Frogs III
Misc Frogs IV

Misc Frogs V

Animals
Bunnies
Bunnies II 
Chinchillas
Degus
Ferrets
Ferrets by BOB
Gerbils
Ground Squirrels
Guinea Pig
Hamsters I
Hamsters II
Hamsters III
Hamsters IV
Hamsters V
Hedgehogs
Kittens
Kids & Kittens
Mice
Mice Pets II
Parasites
Rats I
Rats II
Rats III
Rats, Hairless
S-T Opossums
Siberian Chipmunks
Sugar Gliders
Sugar Gliders II
Water Bottles

Bugs
Crabby 500
Crab 04 Results
Centipedes
Cray/Lobsters
Crayfish II
Crayfish III
Cray, Yucatan
Fiddler Crabs
Shrimp, Algae
Shrimp, Aqua
Shrimp, Red
Shrimp, Flower

Shrimp, Ghost
Shrimp, Rudolph
Hermit Crabs
Hermit Crabs II
Madagas Roach
Mantids
Mini-Clams
Mini-Crabs
Patriot Crabs
Giant Millipedes
Red Claw Crabs
Reiman Butterfly
Snail, Apple
Snail, Colombian
Snail, Land
Snail, Malaysian

Snail, Mystery
Snail, Trapdoor 
Scorpions
Tarantulas
Tarantulas II
Tarantula Night 2006
TarantulaWeen VII
TarantulaWeen 9
Misc. Bugs
Misc Bugs II  

Birds
Breeding Tips

Button Quail
Canaries

Cockatiels
Dove, Diamond
Dove, Ringneck
Finches
Love Birds
Parakeets
Pelleted Foods
Quaker Parrots

Parrot Pictures
Parrot Pix II

Parrot Pix III
Dave's Parrots


Lizards
Alligators
Anoles
Bearded Dragon

Beardies II
Calotes
Chamel, Jackson
Chamel, Panther
Chamel, Veiled
Crested Geckos
Gecko, Golden

Gecko, House
Gecko, Leopard
Gecko, Tokay
Horned "Toads"
Iguana New
Iguana Dragons
Iguana Q&A I
Iguana Q&A II
Iguana Training
Iguana Update
Cool Iguana Pics
Knight Anoles
Monitors, Nile

Monitors, Savana
Monitors, Water

Salmonella
Skinks
Skinks Blue-Tongue
Tegus
Uromastyx maliensis
Water Dragon
Misc Lizards
Misc Lizards 2
Misc Lizards 3
Misc Lizards 4
Misc Lizards 5

Misc Lizards 6
Misc Lizards 7
Misc Lizards 8
Misc Lizards 9


Snakes
Anacondas
Boa, Rosy

Boa, Red-Tail
Corn Snake
Garter Snake
Green Snake
Kids/Corn Snakes
Kids/Red-Tail Boas

Kids at Pet Expo 1

Kids at Pet Expo 2

Kids at Pet Expo 3

Kids at Pet Expo 4

Kids at Pet Expo 5
King & Milk
Python, Ball
Python, Burmese

Snakes Alive
Snakesgiving
Snakesgiving II

Misc Snake Pix
Misc Snakes II

Misc Snakes III  

Turtles/Tortoises
Box, Asian
Box, USA
Races
Snapping

Sulcata
Water

Western Painted

Live Foods
Blackworms
Blood Worms
Br Shrimp I
Br
Shrimp II
Crayfish 1
Crayfish 2
Crayfish 3 
Crickets
Daphnia
Earthworms
Feeder Goldfish
Fruit Flies
Ghost Shrimp

Glass Worms

Grindal Worms
Infusoria
Mealworms
Microworms
Rosy Reds

Super Worms

Wax Worms
White Clouds

 

Decorating
Bubbles
Driftwood
Gravel
Plastic Plants
Rocks
Slow Growing Plants

Miscellaneous
Bob's Acclimation

How to Start
How to Add New Fish
How to Keep Healthy
Which Fish Get Along?
10 Questions to Ask
What is Ich?
Under Gravel Filters

Sponge Filters
Cloudy Water

Cool Water Tanks
Gravel Vacuums
Preventing Disease
Feeding to the Max
Frozen Foods
Green Water
Nasty Chemicals
Overfeeding
Power Filters
Rift Lake Salts
Quarantine Tank
Mini-Tank
2nd Av Bait

Pet World Visit
Dandelions

Aquatic Plants
Amazon Swords
More Swords
Sword Plants III

Anubias
Aponogetons
A. boivinianus
A. fenestralis
A. ulvaceous
Aquarium/Bog
Banana Plant
Bolbitis
Bunch
Bunch Plants II
Cryptocorynes
Crystalwort
Dwarf Lily
Grassy
Grassy II
Hornwort
Hygrophila
Lace
Java Lance Fern
Java Moss
Moss Balls
Onion
Vermiculite

Watersprite

Red Bay Snook Factoids

Origin

Mexico, Guatemala, Belize

Adult Size

Males 18-20 inches.  Females 12.

Sexual Differences

Males heftier

Temperature

Tropical – 72 to 82 degrees

Attitude

Mellow for a cichlid

Security

Will hover below floating objects

Foods

Flakes, pellets, worms, fish

Water

Needs regular water changes

Biggest Threats

Rougher tank mates, cramped quarters, birds

Breeding Comments

Breeds when half-grown

 

 


LA
Four-inch non-dominant male in a pod of seven.  Not much red yet.

LA
Dominant male in same group.
.

Appeal.  You can’t help but like honker-size cichlids – especially large cichlids that do not insist on destroying anything they can reach.  Red bay snooks argue but do not fight other fish to the death as their primary occupation.  They also do not pick up all their gravel and pile it against the front glass of their aquarium.

LA
Two-inch Petenia splendida, bay snooks.  Less common today than 30-years ago.

LA
Bay snook 2.5 inches long plus lips and goldfish.

Origin.  There’s a region called the Peten valley in their home countries from which they get their name (Petenia).  Two variants live there – a green and a red.  Both are rather splendid (splendida) specimens.  We prefer the red variant.  When young, they look a great deal alike.

Red Survival?  The further south you go, the more fish-eating birds you encounter.  How can a red fish exist in a wading pool buffet where fish-gulping birds love to spend their winter vacations?  The red bay snooks hover under water lily pads that are red on their underside.  Oddly enough, red is their camouflage color.

Size.  If you’re looking for a 10-gallon tank occupant, pick another candidate.  Males grow to eating size – a foot and a half.  Females grow to a foot long, still large enough to make a nice dinner for one with a bit of dill sauce and a side of steamed asparagus.

 

LA
Male above a bit sparklier.  Female below retains a light bar pattern.  Male grows larger.

LA
Another pair.  Male on top. Female below.  Still youngsters.

Sexing.  Refer to the preceding paragraph.  The males start outgrowing the females somewhere around 2.5 to three inches.  Males tend to hog the food more.  The politer females hang back and let the males gorge themselves.  The males are pushier, redder, and showier as time and a half goes by.

LA
Fairly mellow predators.  If the prey does not fit, they usually acquit and leave it alone.

Space.  As you may suspect, a fish that exceeds a foot needs plenty of room.  Think of a 55 as the bare minimum.  However, you can mix other civilized cichlids with them – especially in larger tanks.

Groups.  Under four inches they get along fairly well with each other -- even in a 20H.  Give them larger quarters as they increase in size.

Water.  You need not obsess over their pH or DH.  We add a bit of salt every so often.  If their water gets cloudy (usually because it’s fun to feed them), change it.

Water Changes.  When you feed them, you will see why they need large water changes.  They stuff more food in their mouths than a Super Bowl fan.  They will eat until their mouths pooch out.  If you mess with them at this point, they will release a lot of the pellets they’re trying to choke down.  They seem to enjoy water changes.  We give ours a 50% water change weekly.

LA
Red bay snooks will occasionally lurk below floating objects.

LA
They appear to like floating objects.  Maybe like the lily pads?

Tank Décor/Security.  Red bay snooks are not hiders.  Maybe a bit shy when small, but the biggies run to the front because they know you have a snack for them.

Tank Mates.  Your snooks will get along with most non-bite-size cichlids, catfish, and other larger fishes that don’t pick on them.

LA
At the three-inch size, snooks sport a bar pattern and very little red.

Food.  From the day you get them as two-inchers, your red bay snooks will eat flakes and pellets.  They love live and frozen foods.  Of course they love goldfish, but you really need to feed them more than goldfish, goldfish, goldfish plus goldfish for dessert.  Look for foods with carotenoids (plankton, krill, goldfish and color foods) to develop their red coloration.

 

LA
Red bay snooks won't do this for just anybody.  Their red increases with age.

Intriguing Mouths.  Some call them bucket mouths.  Others say they have protrusible mouths.  Much like datnioides and leaf fish, red bay snooks can pooch their mouth out so fast it creates a suction that hoovers smaller fish into their jaws.  Their nearly paper thin protrusible lips probably explains why they rarely bite their tank mates.

LA
Not normal lip-locking.  Look close.  The darker one is holding the golden one's mouth shut.

Breeding Comments.  If you decide to breed them (actually, they’re the ones that decide to breed), you will get a huge crop. Start by feeding them well.  Then make a sudden water change and bump their temperature.  No real secrets.  A dither fish is optional.

LA
Is that a cheesy, self-conscious grin, or what?

Last Comments.  Like most large cichlids, your red bay snooks will keep an eye on you.  Be sure to set a good example.  LA.
 

Joe Bowersox, Des Moines, IA, January 8, 2010
Hello Larry.  This is Joe, I bought the Red Bay Snooks from you and have sold their babies to you last spring. 
Anyway, I noticed on your description of these that you note that they will not dig the gravel to the sides.  I thought you might like to know that the dominant male digs constantly before the female lays the eggs.  
You probably knew this, but I am bored because it is like -12 degrees outside so I thought I would do some reading tonight.
I hope the holidays treated you good.  I will be in tomorrow to buy some food.

A:  When they spawned for me, they just went about the process without making a mess -- not like many big cichlids that pile their gravel up against their front glass.  I'll add your report to their page.  LA

© 2006  LA Productions
aqualandpetsplus.com

                                               

3600 Sixth Avenue

Corner of Sixth & Euclid Avenues

Des Moines, IA 50313

515 283-0300

Home

Fish

Other Stuff

 

Anabantids
Betta Leaf 
Betta Breed 1
Betta Breed II
Betta Info
Betta  Housing
Betta Pla Kat
Choc Gourami
Climbing Perch
Gourami Pix
Kiss. Gourami
Osphronemus
Pearl Gourami
More Pearls
Paradise Fish  
Snakehead
Spawn Gourami
T. trichopterus

Catfish  
Banjo
Bullheads
Bull Sharks
Channel  
Corydoras
Cory Pics
Electric
Glass
Hoplos
Otocinclus
Pangassius
Pictus
Plecostomus
Pleco Bristle
Pleco Costly I
Pleco Costly II
Pleco Costly III
Pleco Costly IV
Pleco Costly V
Pleco Costly VI

Pleco Costly VII
Raphael
Red-Tail
Shovelnose
Sun
Synodontis
Synodontis petricola
Turushuki Catfish
Upside-down
USD Gold Flake
Misc Catfish
Misc Catfish II
Misc Catfish III

Misc Catfish IV
Misc Catfish V

Cichlids
African I
African II
African III
African IV

Af. Furniture
Amer. Small
Amer.  Med 
Amer. Large
Angelfish I
Angelfish II
Angelfish III
Angelfish IV
More Angels
Buttikoferi

Chocolate
Chocolate Spawning
Cichlid Decor
Cichlid Food
Convicts
Convicts 2
Convicts 3
Convicts 4
Dempseys
More Dempseys
Jack Dempsey Spawn
Discus
Dither Fish
Flower Horn
Green Terror
Jaguar
More Jaguars
Jaguar Spawning

Jaguar Spawning II
Jewel Fish
Keo's Flowerhorns
Keo's Flowerhorns II
Kribensis

Odd Couple Spawn
Oscars 1
Oscars 2
Oscars 3
Oscars 4
Oscars 5
More Oscar
More Oscar II
More Oscars III
More Oscars 2007
More Oscars 2007.5
Oscar Spawn
Peacock Bass
Red Devils
More Red Devil

Red Parrots

Red Parrots Spawn
Red Parrot Spawn II
Pikes
Pink Tilapia
Rams
Red Bay Snooks
Red Bay Snook Spawn
Roger Stephen's Cichlids
Severums
More Severums
Severums III

Tanganyikans
Texas Cichlid
Texas Spawning

Texas Spawn II
Uarus
Misc Cichlids I
Misc Cichlids II
Misc Cichlids III
Misc Cichlids IV
Misc Cichlids V
Misc Cichlids VI
Misc Cichlids VII
Misc Cichlids VIII
Misc Cichlids IX

Livebearer  
Guppies
Half-Beak
Mollies
Moons/Platys
Swordtails

Minnows/Tetra 
Barbs
Barbs, Black
Barbs, Gold

Barbs, Rosy
Barbs, Tiger
Barbs, Tinfoil

Danios

Danio Egg Saver
Distochodus
Fathead Minnows
Headstanders
Killies, Econ.
Killies, Golden
Killies, Peat
Killies, Plant
Misc Mini-Fish
Pacús 

Piranha, Black
Piranha, Red
Rainbowfish

Rainbowfish, Dwarf Neon
Rainbowfish, Irian

Silver Dollar
Tetras, Larger
Tetras, Smaller
Tetras, Spawn
Tetra, Vampire
White Clouds

Pond Fish
Carp
Channel Cat
Gold. Comets
Gold. Fantails
More Fantails
Gold. Oriental  
Gold Oriental II 
Gold. Spawn
Kloubec Koi Farm
Koi
Koi II

Koi III
Oranda Spawn
Plecostomus
Shubunkins

Oddballs  
Af. Butterfly
Af. Lungfish
Af. Mudskippr
American Eel
Archer Fish

Arowana
Bichirs
Borneo Suckers
Brackish I
Brackish II
Brackish III
Brackish IV
Brackish V
Michael Troung's Pix
Butterfly/Wasp
Chameleon Fish
Chromides

Chin Alg Eater
Crazy Fish
Crocodile Fish

Datnioides

Dojo
Dwarf Puffers
Electric Cat
Electric Eels

Elephant Nose
Exodon paradoxus
Flounder
Gars
 
Glassfish
Goby Bumble
Goby Butterfly
Goby Dragon
Goby Misc.
Half-Beak
Knife African
Knife Clown
Knife Ghost
Loach Botias
Loach Clown
Loach Kuhli
Loach Weather

Longear Sunfish
Moray Eel  
Peacock Gudgeons
Polypterids
Puffers

Ropefish
Scats
Siam Algae Eater
 
Spiny Eels 
Snakehead
Stingray
Stonefish
Wasp Fish
Wolffish
Wrest Half-Beak
Misc Mini-Fishes
Misc Odd
Misc Odd II
Misc Odd III
Misc Odd  IV

Misc Odd V
Misc Odd VI

Sharks  
Bala
Black
Bull
Chinese Hi-Fin Banded
Iridescent
Red-Tail
Siam Algae Eater

Pond Info 
Blank Park Zoo
Bob Humphrey's Ponds
Cattails
Maffett Reservoir
DMACC's Pond
D.M. Botanical Center
D.M. Water Works
Dr. Ervanian's Garden
Duckweed

Dwarf Lily
Ewing Park "Pond"
Jan & Chris's Water Garden
John McDonald's Pond
Hall's Four Acres
Klines' Water Garden
Landscaper Effects
Mini-Pond Pics
Pioneer Corn's Pond
Pond Fish Predators
Pond on 38th Street 
Pond Pics
Pond Plants
More Pond Plants
Pond Plants III
Reiman Ponds
River Scenes
Riverview Island
Selin's Water Gardens
Selin's Japanese Garden
Tom's Used Cars Pond
Urbandale Duck Pond
Water Hyacinth
Water Lettuce
Wild Ponds